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Hello Falk! World is calling 🙂
Hi Hans! Good to see the GEOS world is alive ;:) I just sent out the infos to all registered users, how to access the personal serial numbers. I’m sorry it took me some time to set this up! Take care the codes are valid only for the software package available in the Downloads section. Best, Falk
Thanks Falk,
I have installed your version of Breadbox Ensemble in DOSBox on my Raspberry Pi tablet, working things out. It is a bit of fiddle with the resolutions on the tablet to fit the screen, in this case the monitor utility from Jörg is very helpful. I understand that working things out will take time when it is done in spare time. Keep up the good work with Geos! 🙂
BR,
Hans
Nice to see GEOS/Ensemble is still alive:
Breadbox Ensemble.
If interested, I was provided with DR-DOS TaskMax/TaskManager, and Ethernet Packet Driver Ensemble 4.13 drivers. You can get them at: http://www.javiergutierrezchamorro.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/breadbox_ensemble_addons.zip.
Thank you for doing this.
Thanks a lot for keeping GEOS alive!
I suppose the version provided here is more or less the same as the last BBE-version?
Thank you for using/trying GEOS. Yes, the version is compiled from the same source code used to make the latest Breadbox Ensemble. Please let us know if there are any issues. We are preparing a new version based on the open source version of GEOS that will be available soon, but is expected to be compatible with Breadbox Ensemble.
Hello 🙂 Thanks for releasing the source! I’ve been tinkering with the source code and got some of the Breadbox programs and games compiled using the SDK on here (as well as the old DOS SDK), though I was wondering if the original pre-compiled versions of the programs and games (I.e. FontMagick and the Arcade game packs) that were on sale on the Breadbox website will be made available?
Thanks,
Dan
Hi Dan, thank you for supporting PC/GEOS! Once we are done with cleanup and refactoring the source to properly build #FreeGEOS SDK, there will be a build variant covering the application mentioned also as binary download for registered users.
Best,
Falk
Hi Falk,
Tanks for your response. One more thing I was wondering, will the help files associated with the various programs (including the core programs) be released, or are they already on GitHub (and I’ve missed them)?
Thanks,
Dan
Hi Dan,
the Breadbox Ensemble help files has been added lately, you can find them here:
https://github.com/bluewaysw/pcgeos/tree/master/Tools/build/product/bbxensem/Help
Best,
Falk
Thanks Falk!
Dan
how to know what is my serial number? thanks
Once your registration is complete you will receive an Email with more instructions, basically the MyGEOS section will then hold you personal serial number together with the license agreement.
Best,
Falk
Hi,
I registered and as far as I can tell the registration process is complete. However there is no serial number in the MyGEOS section. Is something broken?
Hi CJ!
We just processed you registration. We are very sorry for the huge delay, first part of the summer was very busy at our end. Best! Happy GEOSing…
Never received an email concerning registration.
Thanks
All pending registration should have been processed by now. I’m sorry for the delay! -Falk
Hello, Falk! So glad to see you (and quite a few other names I recognize) keeping the GEOS torch alive. I started using GEOS since New Deal Office 3.0, and I was impressed with the speed and ease of use. I was able to get Breadbox Ensemble installed on top of FreeDOS 1.2 with an old Dell laptop, though it crashes frequently!
Unfortunately, I do not know how to code, though I would be eager to learn! What ways could I help you and the others here help move FreeGEOS forward? Thanks!
Hello Steve!
Thank you very much for your feedback. There are and will be a lot of ways to help. In the first hand spread the word of #FreeGEOS is a valuable starting point. Using GEOS, giving feedback, report bugs, share wishes once a first version of FreeGEOS becomes available, is welcome and will help to improve.
Best,
Falk
Greetings from Texas! FreeGEOS is a great idea. I’ve gotten Frank’s Breadbox Ensemble running on DOSBox and FreeDOS (bare metal and VMs).
Looking forward to building a FreeGEOS development environment!
Hey Ray,
thank you very much for your welcome! Looking forward to hear about your experience with running and building for it 🙂 Any support is welcome.
We will be back on getting #FreeGEOS more complete and ready for initial testing very soon.
All best,
Falk
I picked up the Ensemble version provided in the downloads section, but I don’t know if it’s missing something or if I am; in FreeDOS 1.2 in VirtualBox it consistently tosses UI-03, “Unable to load the specific UI library file”. Without much prior PC/GEOS experience I’m at something of a loss; that error message doesn’t seem like much to go on.
Have you added c:\ensemble to the path, in autoexec.bat in FreeDOS? The suggested solution to this error in the Geos support files are reinstallation, however I don’t know if it correct in this case.
BR,
Hans
Same issue here, and that didn’t work either. Does it need a registration code?
No, it is not likely related to registration needs.
It’s more likely related to FreeDOS and it’s setup. We currenlty mainly support and test DOSBox target, we probably need to support and test FreeDOS as well.
Best, Falk
Is it possible to add a setting to the graphics drivers in VESA mode to keep aspect ratio (4/3)? Like for example with a check box. Many modern monitors auto-strech the image, which makes it distorted. I would prefer to have the correct aspect ratio.
BR,
Hans
Hallo Geos-Welt!
Seit vielen Monden habe ich mein GeoWorks Ensemble 2.0 nicht mehr genutzt. Jetzt will ich die “letzte” Variante auch einmal testen.
Wird es das Breadbox Ensemble 4.13 auch in deutsch geben?
Welche CPU benötigt man, um es auf reinem MS-DOS zu nutzen?
Hi all,
it’s great to see, that the PC/GEOS code is released as open source 🙂 Geos Ensemble 1.2 was the first UI I used and was bundled with my first 286 PC. So it’s some kind of time travel.
I’m one of the organisers of the “Kieler Open Source und Linux Tage” (kielux.de), a conferece (talks and workshops) with smal exhibition for Linux and opensource in general. In the past we had different FLOSS operating system projects (FreeDOS with Jim Hall himself, Reactos, BSD, etc.) as guests and maybe someone want to join and presenting PC/GEOS?
Is anybody interested to hold a talk or give a workshop during our next event on 18th or 19th of Semptember 2020 or to make a booth?
In the meanwhile it would be possible to organise a PC/GEOS day or a “hackathon” for developes, if there is interest from your side, at the same location (kitz-kiel.de).
Just write me (hauke@pc-kiel.de), if you have questions or are interested in any kind of presentation or hackathon in Kiel.
Cu Hauke
Hello I have written Euroconverter for Geoworks long time ago.
I have also found in Calculator Car Milage the faulty calculation .
In the free release I see the fault also.
The formule :
($1-$0)/$2 is fault it should be: $2/($1-$0)*100
Thanks to have make Geos Opensource.
Hi Nico, nice to hear from you and see you registered here. Because we push PC/GEOS to open source you are very welcome to support us and send your fixed via github. Best, Falk
Hallo Frank,
I am new on this side. In the 90th I used GEOWORKS privat and for my work. I loved it very much. To continue my experience I tried to download the free version from this side and to install it. Unfortinately it stopped because the code to registrate is missing. Where can I get it?
Best regards
Uli
Hi Uli,
thank for registering and your ongoing interest in GEOS technology. We just updated your registration and your code now should be available in the MyGEOS section of you account after login.
Sorry for the delay, crazy times. Feel free to ask further questions, in case you still experience installation problems or otherwise.
All best,
Falk
Hello,
I was wondering if anyone has had luck getting Ensemble 4.13 to run on a 286 machine? I am trying it out (just for fun) with PCem simulating a 286 machine but it gives a KR-07 error when the splash screen loads, and crashes during the “Initializing Scrub Thread” according to the log. I have also tried it with EMU386 which emulates 386 real mode instructions but it does the same thing. Apparently it is possible to run Ensemble on a 186 FGPA system with EMU386:
https://opencores.org/projects/next186_soc_pc
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Cheers,
Dan
I registered and I do not see a code on my geos page, so I have not been able to install geos. Is there a step I missed?
Thanks for making geos open source!
Hello,
Can you post an updated link to Slack please?
Works again 🙂
Thanks Falk
It’s died again!
No, not really, but moving very slowly, support is very welcome.
-Falk
Hi, I want to use geoworks for my 286 12 Mhz. I tried last version, but it keeps showing error kr-07, or it just hangs. If the last version requires 386, I’ll then use ensemble 2.0, it works great, but I’d like to personalize icons and splash screen to make it look cooler. I found an icon editor but it won’t work with all icons (some system icons can’t be edited).
Thanks.
Hi Mills, starting GEOS 4.x (GEOS 2000) the kernal and other components has been optimized for 32 bit operation, so GEOS/Ensemble became incompatible with 16 bit machines. But 16BIT build variante (PRODUCTS) has been maintained and are built as part of the CI built. We don’t produce 16 bit packages at the moment, but we consider to do so in the future. For the time being you may try to use the 16BIT product outputs for the kernal (and others) to test if it is functional in your environment. Best, Falk
Oh, is this why Geos became really slow on my 386 without memory? I tried NDO2000 and 4.1.3 and both had a very sluggish, unresponsive mouse cursor. Ensemble 2.0 is the version I’m using now, which is really good to use on such an ancient computer.
Hopefully your new releases will get back to the speed of the earlier versions!
Not sure what causes the sluggish experience, maybe the main difference is that GEOS 2.0 uses 16 color mode and the later ones updated to HiColor by default? Then the acutal behaviour very much depends on the graphics card and its power. Maybe try to set 16 color mode in 4.1.3 Preferences and retry (and let us know if this helps).
Best, Falk
The computer is a 386sx16 with 1MB of RAM and an EGA card and display. I tried in CGA and it was maybe slightly better, though barely. Navigating with the keyboard seems fine though.
And I solved it. sorta. The mouse drivers that come with Ensemble are all very slow, fail to follow the movement and to register clicks. However using an external DOS driver (cutemouse) and the mouse works properly.
Now to try to connect to the network. Network drives mounted with xfs 1.91 don’t show up, hopefully I’ll get FTP to work at least.
OK, if is that case the VGA mode default doesn’t matter of cause 🙂 But yes, if even the memory is as limited then for sure Ensemble 2.0 is more efficient, because GEOS 3.x/4.x also has the network stack and related additions. Interesing the a DOS mouse driver improves the mouse behaviour, we need to figure out why. -Falk
Hello al.
My first use of PCGeos was GeoWorks Ensenble Pro 1.2 in combination with DRDos 6.0 on a brand new 286/16 clone system with 1meg of ram 256k vga back in the early ’90s. I still have the installation media and documentation.
It’s great to see it is still alive and kicking.
Best regards.
Mark from New Zealand.
Hi! thank you for your cool work. I used geoworks 1992 on my old i286. I cloned your git repo and compiled successfully. Now I’m on the initial setup and pcgeos wants a serial key. Where can i get this key?
Thanks in advance and greetings from lower bavaria
Tobi
Hi Tobi,
the serial key is part of your registration here at blog.bluewaysw.de under the MyGEOS page. If you already registered, please wait a bit more, you will get a confirmation once we are done.
Best, Falk
Hello world, I’ve been registered for a little while but still haven’t received any serial number for Breadbox Ensemble 4.13. Thank you for all your work
Hello Thibault, thank you for registering and asking back here! Your request has been processed now and the serial number should be available online. I’m sorry for the delay and inconvinience caused. Thanks, Falk
Hello Falk, thank you very much for the serial number and for your work. Good night
While this blog is moving pretty slowly, I’m happy to see that the Github account is still seeing commits. For some reason I think there is a chance for GEOS to come back as an alternative OS or adjunct to one, akin to Haiku or ReactOS. Anyway, good luck to you!
Thank you John to add your comment here!!
Yes, blog content is still lacking, we try to spent the limit time in getting the code side work done first.
Keep up asking, stay tuned, time will come 🙂 Best, Falk